Monday, August 23, 2004

New Stuff Jitters

The recent activity log is as follows: I haven't had any time to do anything lately because I had to get a new apartment, which I did. Now, this week I am getting a new car. Hopefully, a Passat.
Anyway, the specifix/conary box decided to choke on its hard drive, so that will get fixed when I get into the new apartment. I'm also working on getting the cms stuff from lwn so that we can hack at it a little and use it as a framework for the new fedora community site. That's about it for now. More updates as I can write them.

Sunday, August 15, 2004

MySQL 4.x license talks...

Ok, so we've been having an issue with MySQL 4.x inclusion into Fedora. We all know that they changed their licensing to GPL, with a supposed license exclusion for things such as PHP which, for obvious reasons, cannot use the GPL licensing. So for a while this license exclusion has been up on MySQL's website, but still of no use to us, since according to RH legal, (and this makes total sense), if the licensing terms aren't bundled with the source, then technically, the license/exception does not apply to the code. Recently, after much prodding (by many), MySQL decided to bundle the exclusion with the code. This was a good start and we brought up a couple more issues that needed to be dealt with.

During LinuxWorld, I had a nice chat with the ever awesome Brian Aker, MySQL's Director of Architecture. Now, someone must have lit a fire under MySQL's ass because there has been an active discussion, ever since I spoke to Brian. Today, I got the following email from Zak Greant, MySQL's Community Advocate. I hope anyone interested in this gets involved.

From: Zak Greant
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 16:36:14 -0600
Subject: Clarifying the MySQL Licensing Policy Documents

Greetings All,

As a way to cooperatively work to address some of the licensing
concerns held by members of the MySQL community and the broader Free
Software/Open Source community, we are initiating a community review of
our licensing policy documents.

This means that we are soliciting feedback about issues in the policy
documents that people find inaccurate or unclear. From this feedback we
will work to improve the policy documents.

Please note that we cannot guarantee that we will address or accept all
of the issues raised or suggestions made. The licensing is both complex
and is the cornerstone of our business. Past experience shows that we
must work carefully, incrementally and with community involvement in
this area. As with development of the FLOSS exception though, I hope
that we can reach a compromise that is satisfactory for almost

If you wish to participate, the process for doing so is simple.

Review some or all of the following documents:

When you encounter an issue that you find confusing or inaccurate,
please send a note to the MySQL community list or to me personally on
the issue:

Ideally the note will state:
* where the issue is (which document, where in the document)
* what specific aspects of the issue concern you
* the severity of the issue (is it cosmetic, minor or major)
* a suggested fix or set of fixes

You are also welcome to directly file an issue report in the system
that I use for tracking these issues. Visit to do so.

I would like the discussion to take place on the MySQL community list,
as it is easier to keep track of the issues in a single, low-traffic
setting. I prefer not to Cc the MySQL General list beyond this initial
email, so as to avoid cluttering an already busy mailing list.

An initial list of issues raised by various community members exist at:

I am currently working on new draft policy documents to correct some of
the simple issues and errors, and hope to post it next week for
community review after it goes through internal review.

Zak Greant
MySQL AB Community Advocate

Thursday, August 12, 2004

Due to bad weather...

Yeah, so I know I promised this whole great thesis on geekdom and life and whatever else. Well, that's not gonna get done today. It's still in heavy draft mode. After getting back I had too many things to do and the weather was so bad today that I barely squeezed in the most important stuff. I thought something important was coming so I ran to the post office as well. Turns out it was a gift hat from Red Hat. Pics tomorrow, as well as the most awesomest blog entry of all time. Till then.

Sunday, August 08, 2004

First Post!!

Well, not really. Moving stuff here since advogato sucks, and never seems to be up for more than a day at a time. More to come quite shortly about a multitude of things.